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	<title>Comments on: Art by Accident</title>
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		<title>by: Will Duquette</title>
		<link>http://www.foothills.wjduquette.com/blog/archives/438#comment-255</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2003 23:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ian,

By humility, I don't mean a kind of groveling I'm-no-good-ness; I mean an un-self-consciousness.  For the craft to be perfect, you have to focus on it completely, and I think that the intention to create high art leads to self-consciousness. Did Michelangelo think he was creating high art?  Possibly--but fantastically skilled painters were a dime-a-dozen in that time and place.  I suspect he simply got on with the commission.

Regarding WB vs MGM: Oh.  I think our copy of &lt;i&gt;Singing in the Rain&lt;/i&gt; is distributed by Warner Home Video, hence my mistake.

I could make a snide comment about the quality of MGM's efforts in the cartoon arena, but I won't.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian,</p>
<p>By humility, I don&#8217;t mean a kind of groveling I&#8217;m-no-good-ness; I mean an un-self-consciousness.  For the craft to be perfect, you have to focus on it completely, and I think that the intention to create high art leads to self-consciousness. Did Michelangelo think he was creating high art?  Possibly&#8211;but fantastically skilled painters were a dime-a-dozen in that time and place.  I suspect he simply got on with the commission.</p>
<p>Regarding WB vs MGM: Oh.  I think our copy of <i>Singing in the Rain</i> is distributed by Warner Home Video, hence my mistake.</p>
<p>I could make a snide comment about the quality of MGM&#8217;s efforts in the cartoon arena, but I won&#8217;t.
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		<title>by: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.foothills.wjduquette.com/blog/archives/438#comment-254</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2003 17:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I don't think 'humility' is the right word, but certainly a lack of pomposity is necessary.  I think of it this way:  art is craft done perfectly.  

Gene Kelly was an obsessive craftsman, endlessly working on choreography of both actors and camera.

Chuck Jones was also, though he played that part of his personality down.  He once said that the difference between a laugh and silence could be a matter of one frame of film.  The Looney Tunes creators &lt;em&gt;did&lt;/em&gt; aim for a kind of timelessness, though,  they never knew when a particular short would be released, in a few months or a few years.

And, um, MGM was the studio of musicals, including &lt;i&gt;Singin' in the Rain&lt;/i&gt;.  Warner was known for gritty urban dramas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think &#8216;humility&#8217; is the right word, but certainly a lack of pomposity is necessary.  I think of it this way:  art is craft done perfectly.  </p>
<p>Gene Kelly was an obsessive craftsman, endlessly working on choreography of both actors and camera.</p>
<p>Chuck Jones was also, though he played that part of his personality down.  He once said that the difference between a laugh and silence could be a matter of one frame of film.  The Looney Tunes creators <em>did</em> aim for a kind of timelessness, though,  they never knew when a particular short would be released, in a few months or a few years.</p>
<p>And, um, MGM was the studio of musicals, including <i>Singin&#8217; in the Rain</i>.  Warner was known for gritty urban dramas.
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		<title>by: Craig Clarke</title>
		<link>http://www.foothills.wjduquette.com/blog/archives/438#comment-253</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2003 13:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thank you.  I've always thought that &lt;i&gt;An American in Paris&lt;/i&gt; was a far weaker film than &lt;i&gt;Singin' in the Rain&lt;/i&gt;, yet was repeatedly scoffed at for this opinion.

&lt;i&gt;Singin'&lt;/i&gt; is simply more fun to watch.  I mean, how much Gershwin can one person stand?  And, yes, Leslie Caron is cute, but can't hold a candle to the adorable (whatever your opinion of her dancing skills) Debbie Reynolds.

O'Connor's "Make 'em Laugh" routine was always my favorite, despite (or perhaps because of) its absolute silliness.  He looks like he's having a ball (although, apparently, he had to be hospitalized after Gene Kelly made him do three complete takes in a row).  "Fit as a Fiddle" stands out in my mind as well.

The key, I think, is that they made it look easy.  And in &lt;i&gt;American&lt;/i&gt; they make it too serious--to quote Bugs Bunny from &lt;i&gt;A Hare Grows in Manhattan&lt;/i&gt; (during his inimitable rendition of "The Daughter of Rosie O'Grady"), "Look at me, I'm dancin'!"  They sure fooled the Academy, who voted it Best Picture over &lt;i&gt;A Place in the Sun&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;A Streetcar Named Desire&lt;/i&gt;.

Even with the sardonic humor of Oscar Levant to lighten things up, but I'll take &lt;i&gt;Singin' in the Rain&lt;/i&gt; over &lt;i&gt;An American in Paris&lt;/i&gt; any day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.  I&#8217;ve always thought that <i>An American in Paris</i> was a far weaker film than <i>Singin&#8217; in the Rain</i>, yet was repeatedly scoffed at for this opinion.</p>
<p><i>Singin&#8217;</i> is simply more fun to watch.  I mean, how much Gershwin can one person stand?  And, yes, Leslie Caron is cute, but can&#8217;t hold a candle to the adorable (whatever your opinion of her dancing skills) Debbie Reynolds.</p>
<p>O&#8217;Connor&#8217;s &#8220;Make &#8216;em Laugh&#8221; routine was always my favorite, despite (or perhaps because of) its absolute silliness.  He looks like he&#8217;s having a ball (although, apparently, he had to be hospitalized after Gene Kelly made him do three complete takes in a row).  &#8220;Fit as a Fiddle&#8221; stands out in my mind as well.</p>
<p>The key, I think, is that they made it look easy.  And in <i>American</i> they make it too serious&#8211;to quote Bugs Bunny from <i>A Hare Grows in Manhattan</i> (during his inimitable rendition of &#8220;The Daughter of Rosie O&#8217;Grady&#8221;), &#8220;Look at me, I&#8217;m dancin&#8217;!&#8221;  They sure fooled the Academy, who voted it Best Picture over <i>A Place in the Sun</i> and <i>A Streetcar Named Desire</i>.</p>
<p>Even with the sardonic humor of Oscar Levant to lighten things up, but I&#8217;ll take <i>Singin&#8217; in the Rain</i> over <i>An American in Paris</i> any day.
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		<title>by: Jaquandor</title>
		<link>http://www.foothills.wjduquette.com/blog/archives/438#comment-252</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2003 02:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think the "Labor of Love" factor looms large in such examples of "art by accident", in the sense that &lt;i&gt;Singin' In the Rain&lt;/i&gt; was made as an effectionate homage to an earlier time, without efforts at greater art. It's pure love of subject matter and pure love of the medium, and no other desire but to express that love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the &#8220;Labor of Love&#8221; factor looms large in such examples of &#8220;art by accident&#8221;, in the sense that <i>Singin&#8217; In the Rain</i> was made as an effectionate homage to an earlier time, without efforts at greater art. It&#8217;s pure love of subject matter and pure love of the medium, and no other desire but to express that love.
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